Age of Sigmar - Neuigkeiten, Produktbilder und Gerüchte [No comments please]

Für das Warhammerfest an 14. und 15.5. wurden zwei Sondermodelle, eines für AoS und eines für 40k angekündigt.
Wenn die Bilder im Hintergrund Aussagekraft haben, wohl ein Stormcast, vom Umriss sieht es für mich aber eher nach Chaos aus ...

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Archibald_TK auf Warsser über die kommenden Orks:

Zitat von Archibald TK

DISCLAIMER: Before we go you must understand that these models are large, really large. And I mean that they appear to dwarf any other orc models. The Maw Krusha is more massive than the Magmadroth (if I remember the name right), Megaboss is huge... in parallel, this is a very very costly release, even by AoS standard. So don't be surprised by what follows. Also since there are so many references sorry but I will just give you the Euro/UK/US prices and I'll complete at a later time. Also I'm going fast so don't blame me if there are mistakes please.

- Maw-Krusha (1 model) 90€ / £65 / $110
Comes with either a Megaboss or Gordrakk the Fist of Gork on top. Apparently the Krusha itself has two heads options. Few aesthetic differences overall.

- Gore-Gruntas (3 models) 67€ / £48 / $79
Huge Boar riders. They are... different? You have to see them for yourselves but I fear they will not be that well received. It appears that those are not 3 different models, but two, one of them being repeated twice. No weapons options and they really all look similar.

- Brutes (5 models) 42€ / £30 / $50
Heavier than Black Orcs, can be built with either two weapons or a two handed one.

- Megaboss 34€ / £24 / $40

- Weirdnob Shaman 28€ / £20 / $33

- Warchanter 26€ / £18.5 / $30

- Ardboys (15 models) 45€ / £32 / $53
Repackaged Black Orcs with round bases.

- Battletome Ironjawz (128p) 28€ / £20 / $33
14 Warscrolls and Battalions

- Grand Alliance Destruction (112p) 14€ / £10 / $16.5
12 factions, 61 Warscrolls, minus at least 7 for the Ironjaws that's 54 remaining for the old range, place your bets.

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So, gute Fotos der Orks sind da:

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Der kommende WD:

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Noch ein paar:
(Offensichtlich kommen doch sehr viele Sachen schon am 23.4.)

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Regeln!

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Und noch ein Schwung Bilder der Grünhäute:

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Inhaltsverzeichnis des Ironjaws Battletomes:

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Bilder aus dem neuen Battletome:

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Das offizielle FAQ für AoS ist auf der Warhammer Facebookseite!

AoS FAQ ist da!

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Angeblich wandern heute Nacht folgende Modelle in die Last chance to buy Sektion:

- Ogre Kingdoms Battalion
- Greasus Goldtooth
- Ork Warboss on Wyvern
- Ruglud's Armoured Orcs
- Gorbad Ironclaw
- Whirling Death
- Animosity Orcs
- Black Orc Big Boss
- Grimgor Ironhide
- Wolves
- The Chase
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Orks-Video

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/708

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PS. Wie bindet man im neuen Forum Youtube Videos direkt ein?
[Reicht in der Regel die Video URL direkt einzufügen. Gruß, Merrhok]

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Soviel dazu ...

Ein paar Bilder aus dem neuen Battletome:

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Cover des nächsten WD - wohl nichts Neues für AoS:

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Ankündigungen im kommenden (30.4.) WD:

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Einige Aussagen zu AoS von Hastings, der verlässlichsten Gerüchtequelle auf Warseer der letzten Jahre.
Vielleicht interessiert es ja den einen oder anderen von euch ...

Zitat von Hastings (Zusammenfassung nach BolS)

let’s look at AOS vs WFB “spending”

let’s imagine the costs for development were 5gbp and the cost of production of each box after develpment were 1gbp and a box retails at 10gbp. That means if you only sell one box you have made only 4 gbp, ie sale is 10gbp minus 5gbp for development and 1 gbp for production. If you sell 2 boxes your profit becomes bigger, example 20gbp to buy 2 boxes, minus 5gbp development, minus 2 gbp production costs equals a profit of 13gbp. Obviously the more units you sell the more profit after you have paid for that initial development fee.
This is where GW got greedy, initially not so much, but towards the end of WFB they certainly made starting out in WFB harder.
A basic unit for WFB was say 40 infantry (4 boxes)(certainly under 8th) that would be a total spend of 40gbp, minus 5gbp dev, minus 4 gbp production, that’s 31 profit on the 4 boxes, or 7.75gbp per box.

now let’s look at AoS, a unit no longer needs to be large, in fact as a skirmish game you are probably looking at say 20 models, that’s 2 boxes. So that’s 20gbp sales, minus 5gbp dev minus 2 gbp prod, that’s a profit of 13gbp, or 6.5gbp per box.
Herin lies the problem, to support the AoS business model you either have to A/ sell in much larger volume, however as a skirmish game it is not promoted in game to buy multiples of each box, it serves no real purpose or B/ increase the sale cost of a box from 10gbp to say 15gbp to account for less sales of each unit.

However GW are reporting reduced sales DESPITE having raising the sales cost, this makes the model unsustainable where the outcome is one of three things. You end up selling very small amounts of units at a very high price or you reduce dev costs to maximise profit but at the expense of quality or you find a way to start selling multiple boxes of the same product again, it’s almost a vicious circle and one that outpriced WFB players which in tunr then goes back round to reduced sales. Without the sales volume improving I cannot see how GW will be able to continue supporting AoS, either that or they end up with a very small customer base that will pay whatever they ask . Neither is good for growth or sustainability.

AoS is selling worse than WFB did, it’s popularity is much lower, if GW don’t reach out and get someone to start buying/playing do you think GW will support AoS for very long if it is actually making them less money than WFB did???
That’s what this 3 ways to play is all about, they have got to try and appeal to a bigger market, because the market they selected (picked at random) is not spending enough money. Hence the very very early warning to sharholders despite having 2 very popular launches (BaC and DW:O) AND some well received 40k releases….. this should at least be some kind of indication of how much AoS tanked even for the most ardent fan of it.
…I don’t like AoS but that doesn’t mean I’m going to make up that it isn’t selling well because I don’t like it! As I posted before my brother bought it and does quite like it (although struggles to find a game). I am reporting back on poor sales of the product, and there is LOTS of evidence that supports that, here are some examples:-

Any polls run on this or other sites come back with the same/similar results 80% negative to AoS.
The game and indeed in some places 40k have been dropped at clubs all over and replaced by KoW etc.
Many stockists still have much of their original launch stock of AoS.

Limited Edition books fail to sell out even in very small print runs WORLDWIDE, WFB sold out bigger print runs sometimes in hours.
there are obviously more coincidental occurences but I really can’t be bothered to justify that I am reporting accurately that AoS is not selling well.
…By the way for those asking I do not have information on how other products sold or why this or why that, I will happily share with you all the two things I was implicitly told:-

1/ WFB was still making profit before end times, just not as much as some people would have liked. This is kind of ironic because IMO the reasons it didn’t make more profit is it was largely put on the back burners behind anything that had power armour (i.e. space marines/40k) – and I guess because of popularity that is understandable. And the cost of entry. However the making cost of entry so high is directly the fault of GW, the costs per army towards the end of WFB were beyond crazy, a small unit (one of many in an army) costing between 50 -100gbp is just crazy when there are so many alternatives out there. What is even more unforgiveable and moronic is that there would have been an easier fix to boost sales of WFB, release an entry level/skirmish game, get people buying the very same models you already sell for WFB but in smaller numbers, you’ve already paid for the development so any extra sales add to profit. Then once people have built a small force under skirmish rules let them add to it for the main WFB, they’ll have spent the same amount of money (if not a little more when you take into account the cost of the skirmish game) but it wouldn’t be in one big stupid hit!
2/ Sales of AoS are poor, and it doesn’t have a strong sales/customer base anywhere world wide. In some countries it is all but dead already, in others there is a small and slowly growing community, however these are not near the levels WFB had before it was decided to be scrapped (and this means sales BEFORE end times spike). The reception of the game from the wider community has been overwhelmingly negative, from the ruleset, to the background material.

…Normally new systems get a sales spike, and last a few years, not require change inside of a year to try and broaden the appeal. This is not the fault of AoS though, moreso the lack of an original target audience. It wasn’t intended for the existing fantasy crowd as they weren’t buying enough, yet no research was done as to who would buy such a product, and even worse no external advertising was done to bring in any new blood, they were effectively advertising the product to a market of existing customers who they had just lost well over half of.
So we can also suggest that as BaC was only in it’s “crib” it shouldn’t have sold well either? When you have over 30 years experience and are considered the market leader the “in it’s crib” argument doesn’t stand up.
I hope GW do turn things around though, but with poor sales of AoS AND a very early shareholders warning I think it is too late.

A lot of that sounds really, really negative, but it lines up EXACTLY with what BoLS has been hearing since last year from industry professionals in North America. There is going to be a lot of corporate happy talk about giving the players what they want, and Age of Sigmar still may well grow into a great system.

But…

I can tell you this – no company puts out major structural changes to a main-line product 9 months after it’s initial rollout unless something very bad is happening behind the scenes. These sea changes in the game we are seeing are coming from a position of product weakness – not product strength. If the three styles of play are what GW had envisioned for Age of Sigmar all along, they would have rolled it out that way 9 months ago – not now.

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Zitat von Hastings

There's no angry mob.

I was simply saying that as THE market leader and with 30 years of
experience if GW cannot release a tabletop game succesfully there is a
problem. The in it's crib argument means nothing. GW have the
experience and the "talent" for a succesful product launch..... unless
however the best and brightest of the talent has already left and you
end up releasing a game without knowing who is actually going to buy it.
That was my only point, no personal argument or anything.

I don't like AoS but that doesn't mean I'm going to make up that it
isn't selling well because I don't like it! As I posted before my
brother bought it and does quite like it (although struggles to find a
game). I am reporting back on poor sales of the product, and there is
LOTS of evidence that supports that, here are some examples:-

Any polls run on this or other sites come back with the same/similar results 80% negative to AoS.
The game and indeed in some places 40k have been dropped at clubs all over and replaced by KoW etc.
Many stockists still have much of their original launch stock of AoS.
Limited Edition books fail to sell out even in very small print runs
WORLDWIDE, WFB sold out bigger print runs sometimes in hours.

there are obviously more coincidental occurences but I really can't be
bothered to justify that I am reporting accurately that AoS is not
selling well.

I think I'm done here.

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Kahless

PS. Ich habe ein paar ältere Beiträge mit Bildern in Spoiler gesetzt, um die lange Ladezeit der Seite auf Grund der vielen Bilder etwas zu verkürzen.

Infos zum kommenden Turniersystem:

Zitat von Lady Atia

Howdy Guys and Girls - what we know so far:

- GW is working with tournament organizers to get the stuff right
- There will be points
- There will be unit categories similiar to 40k, Leaders, Battle Line Units, Behemoths and Warmachines (working titles).
- You build your army similiar to 40k now, so you have Battalions and some kind of FoC, depeneding on the points size of your army
- Core Rules + FAQ's stay the same.
- Books are not invalidated
- All warscrolls get points, even Tombkings/Squattonia
- Basically it's Unbound, Story Mode and Tournament Mode
- Open play is basically Unbound or Apocalypse, including rules for multi player battles
- Narrative Play will give you campaign rules similiar to FW's Imperial Armour/HH Campaigns
What do you think so far?
Edit :
- 5 Campaign in the book with a story arc for each. (path to glory included)
- 22 batte plan (small to very big)
- Must have book
- Rules for multiplayer games
- ppl from the podcast playtested the game.
- 2000 points = 2.5hours battle.
regards,
Lady Atia

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Dann gibt es noch was von Bad Dice:

Zitat von Bad Dice

The Generals Handbook is an awesome new release from games workshop that includes 3 new ways to play Age of Sigmar including Open, Narrative and Matched play.Open play is pretty much Age of Sigmar as we know it now, Narrative is story driven along the line of the realm gate wars books and the 3rd version is Matched play which includes a FULL POINTS SYSTEM for all Warscrolls in the Age of Sigmar.
Ben Curry (Bad Dice Podcast), Dan Heelan (Heelanhammer), Wayne Kemp and Russ Veal (Facehammer) were invited into games workshop to, and i quote, “Help make it great”
This episode is our experiences on this fantastic weekend and a first look at what is coming in the Generals Handbook.
In the show, in addition to talking about the fantastic time we had meeting Jervis Johnson and other members of the studio, and getting to play stet some of the ideas and scenarios in the book and we also release more information about the contents of the book.

• First thing, its a book and will be release in the summer.
• There are 5 new campaigns including path to glory,
• 22 new battle plans from small games all the way up to epic battles between the games biggest characters.
• 6 new ‘Pitched Battle’ scenarios
• Multi-player and team play and of course,
• full points values for every Warscroll in Age of Sigmar.

Infos aus dem Podcast:

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Book: Generals Handbook

Erscheinungsdatum: 23. Juli 2016
Etwa 160 Seiten
Preis: Voraussichtlich 20£ / 30€

Und noch der Link zum Warhammer AoS Podcast (aufs Bild klicken):

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Und ein Vorschaubild gibt es auch schon ...

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Also ich freu mich drauf,
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