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I finished my first MSU battle (as already mentioned not the whole army was MSU-style). We had 3000 P my Dark Elves vs. Empire. The battle went fine and the Dark Elves caught some Slaves 
I made many mistakes but finally the DE won. It was interesting to see how the small units worked out in that battle. The batrep will follow in the next few days.
Alles anzeigen@ GreenTide74
Sure!
Here is a link to SmithF's own topic:
http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=94537
He started to play MSU with Empire before it got a new book. But if you check the list of reports he had 4 with the new army book too before he switched to Wood Elves.
I also tried to find some discussions on Empire forum and here are some links. I am not sure how useful they are, though, as I haven't read them.
http://warhammer-empire.com/theforum/ind…95013#msg795013
I hope you will find them useful.
Great, thanks a lot, I will check ´em all!
greetz greentide
Hi Aem_Kei,
Thanks for the link to the report! I am glad you tried your MSU version of DE. I will try to come back with some comments later on! 
Zitat von "Swordmaster of Hoeth"Alles anzeigenGreetings!
I didn't expect that after ConVic I will have almost no opportunities to play any games but as it happened I didn't play any before another tournament. I hoped I didn't become too rusty!
This time it was another interstate tournament and after visiting Queensland and Victoria I found myself in a car full of ACT players happy to go to New South Wales for some good warhammer! Adam G., Adam R., Dave C. (the crazy driver! :)) and me formed one merry ACT Team and off we went to Newcastle. It was the first time for me to play there but I have heard already that it is an event like no other.
For those interested in specific rules here is the link to the main thread and a rules pack: Castle Assault - Rules Pack
In short, it was 5 game tournament, 2400 points, peer comp (1-6 score), modified scenarios and battle comp was also used (meaning there was a specific way to to further modify the result depending on the difference in comp score). I will try to described the details in each game.
We begun the trip early afternoon on Friday and arrived to Newcastle some time int the evening. There was of course a lot of warhammer talking during the trip and 5-6 hours drive didn't even feel that long at all. Since there was still relatively early my team mates decided to play some quick practice games.
Bedhammer!!!!
The day after there was plenty of time for breakfast and off we went to the venue to register and check our first match ups. Below, as usual, some photos of deployments during each game as a teaser before the reports!
Game 1 - Dawn Attack - Beastmen of Chaos - Jonathan
Game 2 - Battle for the Pass - Lizardmen - Ethan
Game 3 - Blood and Glory - High Elves - Marc
Game 4 - King of the Hill - Warriors of Chaos - Marcel
Game 5 - Battle line - Lizardmen - Alex
The reports will follow as soon as I am capable of writing them. I will do my best to keep the pace but please, be patient!
In the meantime, if you are interested in the overall results and prefer not to wait until I go through all the games, here is the link to the final standings: Castle Assault - Results
From enlisted 68 players 63 finished the tournament. It was a great success for Newcastle warhammer community and they even made it to the local news! Well done, guys! I strongly recommend to check their blog for some news, especially if you are somewhere on the Southern Hemisphere
An army breakdown was as follows:
High Elves - 10
Warriors of Chaos - 10
Daemons - 6
Ogres - 6
Empire - 5
Ogres - 5
Orcs & Goblins - 4
Vampire Counts - 4
Chaos Dwarves - 3
Dark Elves - 3
Lizardmen - 3
Skaven - 3
Beastmen - 2
Dwarves - 2
Tomb Kings - 2
Bretonnia - 1
Ok, that's all for now. Stay tuned!
Cheers!
Quelle: http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/v…&t=54974&p=847591#p847591
Also bei mir hat sich mittlerweile ein Mischkonzept aus MSU und Todesstern bewährt...
Im Zentrum bleibt nach wie vor ein stabiler Hauptblock inklusive Erzmagier und AST, der Rest wird überwiegend klein und schnell gehalten, je nach Punktzahl natürlich...
Naja...
Ich denke ein Todesstern mit Supporttruppen ist doch ein sehr anderes Armeekonzept als MSU
Aber klar auch das Todessternkonzept hat seine Daseins Berechtigung 
Zitat von "Swordmaster of Hoeth"Alles anzeigenGreetings!
The first game of Castle Assault was Dawn Attack. The scenario followed the rules from the rulebook with following modifications:
In the first game of the tournament I played against Jonathon and his Beastie Boyz. Jonathon traveled from Queensland to participate in the event and I had a pleasure to meet him earlier this year when I played at the tournament organized by Queensland Northern Knights. Back then our game was unresolved as it ended up with a draw. I think we both were eager to find out if one of us can prevail this time
Johnathon brought different army than the one he had at QNK Joust 9.0 Here is his list (from memory):
Beastmen of Chaos - Army List
Of course, the scenario could interfere with the most carefully laid plans so let's see what the deployment looked like:
I will continue with the report in couple of days. In the meantime, feel free to comment on the deployment and possible outcomes. I am very curious about your thoughts!
Cheers!
Zitat von "Swordmaster of Hoeth"Alles anzeigenGreetings!
Game 2 - Battle for the Pass - Lizardmen - Ethan
Game 2 of Castle Assault was Battle for the Pass. The usual rulebook scenario but again, in line with the whole tournament player's pack, with modifications. First of all each player had to bring appropriate objective marker. Something that fits army theme and is either on 40x40mm or 50x50mm base. I decided to use the miniature I have been given by my Secret Santa (thanks a lot again, grntmepower! :)) and she was looking attractive enough to stir even coldblooded Lizardmen so that they wanted to capture her
To claim an objective a player needed to position a unit (or part of it) in 6" away from the objective. If both players had units close to the marker, then the one with higher static combat result (ranks, banners, bsb, etc.) would claim the objective. 3 battle points were granted for taking Primary objective, 2 for Secondary and points were shared if no one could claim the objective.
Ethan was my opponent this time. We haven't had an opportunity to play before but I can tell you right now that he is a very nice person to play against and it was yet another very pleasant game for me. Thanks a lot, Ethan! =D>
Ethan brought his stalwart Lizardmen. I was very curious about the outcome as I haven't played against new Lizards yet. They were always a tough opponent for me and I had no doubts it would be the case here as well. But then would it be because of their new toys or due to old tricks?
Below is the army list Ethan brought to the game, obviously, with some details lacking as I don't remember all the items :oops:
Lizardmen - Army List
Slann, level 4, BSB, Knows all signature spells
Oldblood on Coldone, Piranha Blade, 1+ armor save (I think)
Scar Veteran on foot
Skink Priest - Lore of Heavens
30 Saurus Warriors, Full Command
30 Saurus Warriors, Full Command
10 Skink Skirmishers
10 Skink Skirmishers
10 Skink Cohort
6 Saurus Cavalry
5 Chameleon Skinks
5 Chameleon Skinks
Bastiladon (bound spell shooty thing)
Stegadon Ancient (lots of blowpipes)
Lizardmen are really tough and even more so in battle for the pass. Their phalanx nicely blocked the passage to the rear. Skinks are very good at hunting eagles and fast troops. Two dinosaurs also are very dangerous to my small units thanks to impact hits and t-stomps. The combination of high toughness and good armor meant it would be hard to beat them too.
Two big infantry blocks were a problem. I thought I have a chance to beat one if I managed to thin it down properly but would have divert the second one away from markers. I simply don't think I would be able to engage both with enough units to win combats. Not to mention that war of attrition is way better for Lizardmen.
Saurus cavalry with Oldblood was very potent and I had to deal with it too. I hoped I could contain them with my own cavalry or at least try to inflict enough casualties to make a difference for later combats. Then last but not least was Slann and his new ability to know all signature spells. I know how powerful it is thanks to running Loremaster but with level 4 it can be even more dangerous!
So, the general plan was:
- focus shooting (if possible) on one saurus block and kill it in close combat
- divert the second one
- use magic to wound dinosaurs and if possible, attack them with high strength unit. Combination should see them killed before they start stomping.
Deployment
The pass is full of troops - no space to maneuver on flanks
Slann decided to stay with his trustworthy Skinks in the building. Oldblood joined his elite cavalry, while Scar Veteran led one of the Saurus blocks to battle. Skink Priest (who had Iceshard Blizzard spell) was also attending his master Slann.
Loremaster joined his Swordmasters in the front line. BSB led Sae Guard to battle.
Ethan won the roll-off and his army was to move first.
Any predictions?
Hi Tiny!
Thanks a lot for constant adding of my reports to the forum. Even if it is just copy-paste. And if it is then I will try to take away that burden from your shoulders and start doing that myself. I hope the games are still interesting to read about although I understand that seeing the same army featured over and over again can be boring.
Please dont feel desperate by the low number of answers. I enjoy your reports. I am still figuring out, who it works. I can see. Like in a good martial arts movie: you watch the single steps and the effect but cant get in the way to copy.
ZitatThanks a lot for constant adding of my reports to the forum. Even if it is just copy-paste. And if it is then I will try to take away that burden from your shoulders and start doing that myself
You are more than wellcome to do so! They are your battle reports after all 
There is only very little adjustment needed to move the reports from ulthuan.net to here:
The Title size has to be changed from 150 to 15 and (that pure optional) I do add [spioler] flags for each turn.
That's it 
understand that seeing the same army featured over and over again can be boring.
Not to me!
By the way: I think your last game against Beastmen was one of your best (I have read so far)
Hi guys!
@ Serotonin
Thank you for your kind words! Please, don't get me wrong. I am glad people read my reports and that is great in itself. I could not ask for more really. I consider any discussion afterwards as a bonus. I enjoy it a lot so if that happens it is simply fantastic!
If I can get feedback on my reports, however, I can make sure they are even more interesting in the future. So don't hesitate to let me know what would you like me to improve!
@ Tiny
I will see if I can make it as nicely as you then!
Wow! I didn't expect that comment at all! I am really glad you rate that game so high! Thanks a lot!
I would love to find out what made you consider it the best, however. I am happy that the plan worked well and I could get these combined charges in the last turns of the game. But it is always nice to know how it looks from the point of view of another player.
Cheers!
Wow! I didn't expect that comment at all! I am really glad you rate that game so high! Thanks a lot!
I would love to find out what made you consider it the best, however. I am happy that the plan worked well and I could get these combined charges in the last turns of the game. But it is always nice to know how it looks from the point of view of another player.
As I sad at ulthuan, I think your opponent should had tried for a push and should had made more use out of his chariot and chaff, so my judgment my also include the mistakes your opponent made.But: Reading the report I did not have had the impression that at any point in time your victory was at risk!
Sure your opponent probably should had tried for a push in turn 3, hopping to break through and hitting a week spot with an over run movement. But even if you had all the aces at your hand to react appropriate.
As it went, it was very nice to see how you isolated the three big blocks. And of cause the multicharge at turn 5 was such a beauty
As far as I can see you made only one mistake in turn 6 (not securing the flank of your archers), but even (was silly it maybe) this mistake was not (and would never had been) game breaking.
Thanks Tiny!
Sometimes it is hard to compare games as they all gave great aspects and to an extend a lost game can be great too. Although when you win it is obviously better. I will tell you how I rate my games at CA after I post all the reports but this one was definitely great!
I have the maps ready and I will do my best to post the report tonight (Australian time :)) so hopefully you all will have something new to read at lunch break
Cheers!
so hopefully you all will have something new to read at lunch break
So I was sitting at my lunch break being sade that I do not have an exciting battle report to read, until I realized that you had allready posted the report
Hi there!
Apologies for a little delay in reposting the report here. I finished writing it on Ulthuan quite late. But here it is! Let's see if I can do that as neatly as tiny does!
Game 2 - Battle for the Pass - Lizardmen - Ethan
Game 2 of Castle Assault was Battle for the Pass. The usual rulebook scenario but again, in line with the whole tournament player's pack, with modifications. First of all each player had to bring appropriate objective marker. Something that fits army theme and is either on 40x40mm or 50x50mm base. I decided to use the miniature I have been given by my Secret Santa (thanks a lot again, grntmepower! :)) and she was looking attractive enough to stir even coldblooded Lizardmen so that they wanted to capture her We had to place our respective markers in the middle of no man's land and then scatter them. Then we rolled a dice and as I won the roll-off I was to pick what was the primary and what was the secondary objective. I naturally chose my own marker as primary objective! But as you can see on the diagram, both scattered towards my own deployment zone.
To claim an objective a player needed to position a unit (or part of it) in 6" away from the objective. If both players had units close to the marker, then the one with higher static combat result (ranks, banners, bsb, etc.) would claim the objective. 3 battle points were granted for taking Primary objective, 2 for Secondary and points were shared if no one could claim the objective.
Ethan was my opponent this time. We haven't had an opportunity to play before but I can tell you right now that he is a very nice person to play against and it was yet another very pleasant game for me. Thanks a lot, Ethan! =D>
Ethan brought his stalwart Lizardmen. I was very curious about the outcome as I haven't played against new Lizards yet. They were always a tough opponent for me and I had no doubts it would be the case here as well. But then would it be because of their new toys or due to old tricks?
Below is the army list Ethan brought to the game, obviously, with some details lacking as I don't remember all the items :oops:
Lizardmen - Army List
Deployment
Lizardmen - Turn 1
Outcasts - Turn 1
Lizardmen - Turn 2
Outcasts - Turn 2
Lizardmen - Turn 3
Outcasts - Turn 3
Lizardmen - Turn 4
Outcasts - Turn 4
Lizardmen - Turn 5
Outcasts - Turn 5
Lizardmen - Turn 6
Outcasts - Turn 6
After-battle thoughts
Ok, it seems it worked! I hope you enjoyed the report!
Cheers!
