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A bit more detail on the Cauldron of Blood/Blood Throne:

The whole contraption is a large lower platform on six wheels with a smaller raised platform towards the rear, which is reached by two staircases that curve from the lower center outward to the left and right front of the upper platform. The upper platform is where the Hag stands/Medusa is coiled. Near the top of each staircase is a witch elf guard, and they stand with their feet on different levels of the stairs in a nice "guarding" action pose.

Those that guard the Medusa have spears, which they are pointing down the stairs, as if threatening anything that might come up them. The Medusa's right arm is holding high a spear, point upwards, and her right breast is bare. Also, the Medusa's body is covered in scattered small cuts from which drips blood. The paint job is in the very clean GW style and looks very nice, but I do look forward to somebody doing a bit grittier, more realistic paint job on the Medusa in particular. Seriously, the Medusa is a pretty badarse model, and anybody who doesn't like it should be publicly ostracized.

Behind the Medusa is what looks like a large mirror on a pedestal. The mirror frame is gold, and depicts cavorting Witch Elves. The mirror is painted to look like what appears to be a row of moons in a clear blue daytime sky (i.e. the mirror "looks through to another world" type of thing is what they were going for, I guess). Also, Lion mentioned snakes at the base of the Medusa's tail, but it may be that it is the Medusa's tail that actually splits into multiple serpents itself, as the snakes are painted a similar (though slightly lighter) shade of green to the Medusa's lower snake body. The angle of the pic doesn't show which is the case, so we'll most likely have to wait for the pre-order pics to determine that. For the Cauldron of Blood, at the back of the upper platform behind the Hag is the obligatory large statue of Khaine, sword held aloft.

Lion has described the other models well enough, but I think you can figure out which one of the bunch is my favorite. Pics ought to drop soon (probably this weekend), but it won't be me doing it. That's about all I am going to share. If I hadn't already started High Elves when the Isle of Blood starter set came out, I would be doing Dark Elves. It is going to be very difficult to resist staring them.

Kommt bald bestimmt ein Kombi-Kit für Hydra!:-)

Zitat von Aem_Kei

all but 3 boxes will be remade.

Ich vermute Echsenritter und Korsaren, da die ja am neusten sind. Aber was mag die dritte Box sein?

Nun habe ich mich jetzt vertan ? In Anbetracht der Veröffentlich neuer Dunkelelfen nächsten Monat bin ich direkt heute Morgen auf die GW-Seite gegangen um zu schauen, was denn da jetzt so kommen mag. Und was war ? Nichts ! Also sollte heute nicht die Vorankündigung kommen ? Bin ich zu früh, oder gibt es einen GW- freien-erscheiningsmonat ?

Würde eher sagen zu früh. Die Vorankündigung kommt bestimmt noch.

Die Vorankündigung kammot am letzten Samstag des monats so wie immer.

Ich mach mal weiter:

More information coming in, that indeed Dark Elves will be a massive release. Not only will there be many new plastic kits out, but there will be a second month of releases as well for the Dark Elves. Its going to be an exciting two months as most of the Dark Elf line looks like its being redone.

Also mentioned below are the releases in the near future, that were part of the conversation, but not the focus, and includes other GW game releases from Tyranids and the Hobbit.

Please be aware that these are rumors, from a good source.

You may also note that for clarity I am changing how I show release schedules to be much more specific. Showing the Pre-Order dates and Release dates may help readers be clear on exactly when we will see these new releases in the future. (let me know what you think)

via an Anonymous Source
Dark Elves
First Month
Advanced order/white dwarf from Sat 28th Sept. (so the studio can talk about them at UK GD)
On shelves Sat 5th Oct.
-most of the plastics already mentioned-

Second month
Advanced order/White dwarf from Sat 26th Oct.
On shelves Sat 2nd Nov.
-even more plastic crack Inc. Shadowblade plastic clampack by far the best model of range IMHO

Release Schedule
September - 1st Dark Elves Advanced Orders/ On the Shelf October 5th
October - 2nd Dark ElvesAdvanced Orders/ On the Shelf November 2nd
November - Desolation of Smaug and dark elf army box pre-orders/ Released December 7th
December: Tyranids Pre-Orders/ Released January 4th


http://natfka.blogspot.de/2013…months-of-dark-elves.html

Und hier nochmal ne Zusammenfassung:

Predicted Release: October/November/October-November 2013
Codex InformationAuthor:
State:

General Information
Aesthetic seems to be focused on them being a more sinister version of the High Elves with spikes and jagged edges on the armor.
Temple of Khaine Artifacts are still in the book. No word on if there are new poisons or not.
New plastic banners do not appear to have any designs sculpted onto them.

New Rules
Gain the Always Strikes First special rule like their High Elf cousins.

Special Characters

Lords

• Crone Hellebron is the only character 40k Radio has seen images of at this time. She is a little more armored than a normal Witch Elf and wears a little more clothing. She carries a sword and a small blade. "She definitely has the big hair like in her artwork in the current army book". She looks young, like a regular Witch Elf and wears a gold mask over her face that extends upwards in a "crown like fashion". Both of her arms are raised towards the sky.

Heroes

• Cauldron of Blood is now a larger model with hooks and chains but is "a bit toned down" compared to the Empire Celestial Hurricanium/Lumniark of Hysh. It has six wheels and two staircases. It doesn't have any models pulling it so speculation is that it might be pushed like the Screaming Bell. It has three Witch Elves on it, with "spikes and blades". They're described to be dressed in what looks to be loincloths and bras, and appear "vicious". The statue of Khaine that stands behind the Hag has his sword held aloft.

Core

• Warriors changed in design. Helmets no longer cover their eyes and now have cloaks. The cloaks hang down from beneath the shoulder armor and cover the back chain mail when looking at them from behind. They also have skulls embossed on their shields.
• Dark Rider have "sleek-looking horses with only a bit of armor" and the cloaked riders are hunched in the saddle to give the feeling that their fast moving calvary while presenting a low profile. Helmets appear to be open-faced, and can be armed with spears. No word if they can get crossbows at this time.
• Assassins got a buff. Not clear if it's improved Hidden rules or an improved Save at this time.

Special

• Executioners have skull-faced helms. Their armor is bright silver with red tunics in the WD. They all hold the Draiches (swords) on the left side of their body (that is your right when looking at them from the front). Their armor appears to be a mixture of plate and chain mail. Champion is armed with an axe and is holding the decapitated head of a High Elf in the pictures.
• Witch Elves have 2 hand weapons in the White Dwarf.
• Blackguard look very "stalwart" with large halberds, and high helms that have 3 spikes on each side of them with a flowing plume on top. Their armor is black and trimmed gold and they wear dark purple cloaks. The unit Champion is holding a sword by the hilt with the blade planted in the ground. Their musician is a drummer. Their helmets do not cover their faces, and their armor has bulkier shoulders.
• Cold One Chariot looks very sleek with the wheels towards the rear of the chariot and the body low to the ground. The Cold Ones pulling the chariot match the Cold One Knights.
• Witch Elves are armed with 2 hand weapons in the pictures and are "very dynamic with their poses". Each model has long, flowing hair, red loincloths, thigh-high black boots and "for lack of a better term bras". They also appear to have open mouth "so lord only knows what they're saying before they come in and hack my poor High Elves to bits". There does appear to be a command group for the unit.

Rare

• Hydra is now beefier looking. The Hydra's 2 Handlers are mounted on the same base as the Hydra in the WD pictures.

New Units

• Scroungerunner(or Scourgerunner) armed with spears and what appears to be a large crossbow or a bolt thrower. The crew "look similar to Corsairs". The passenger shooting the crossbow/bolt thrower has what appears to be a sea dragon cloak on. The reigns appear to be normal black leather and the horses look "awesome and angry". Both horses are black with red eyes. The chariot only has a single wheel that is centered on the back section. "And as usual nasty spikes and blades".
• Warlocks are bare chested with mundane looking hand weapons (one each), which are held in a reverse grip and resemble jagged daggers. The warlock champion's eyes are glowing which suggests at magical ability perhaps? The models have long flowing hair that ias painted white, and the rank/file models have black eyes (or possibly no eyes). There does not appear to be a full command group for the unit, just the unit champion.
• Kraken has has spines and scales with smoth flesh on the neck and underbelly. Was painted with the scales in Dark Grey and the softer flesh in blue. It does not have tentacles, but has four webbed appendages ending in claws and a tail. Has one main head with beady eyes above the mouth which has the lower jaw extending like an octopus tentacle with teeth. The four other necks end with fanged maws and claws that look to facilitate grabbing their next meal.
• Blood Throne shares the kit/chassis with the Cauldron of Blood. On the Throne itself sits something that looks "like a half-witch Elf, half Medusa, with snakes as hair". The Witch Elves on the Throne use spears and wear metal masks that cover most of their face, save for the chin/mouth and the eyes. The Medusa model has the lower body of a snake, and has snakes on her base. The right side of her torso is bare, to include her breast while armor covers her left side. In her right hand she holds a spear and her left hand is clad in a clawed gauntlet. Her mouth is agape and she has snakes for hair. Her body is also covered in a number of small cuts that drip blood. "There is a significant amount of blood on the model". Behind the Medusa appears to be a mirror depicting cavorting Witch Elves. It's painted to look like what appears to be a row of moons in a clear blue daytime sky ("i.e. the mirror "looks through to another world" type of thing is what they were going for, I guess")

Model Releases

• Plastic Dark Elf Warrior Box (Makes Spearmen, Swordsmen and Crossbowmen)
• Plastic Dark Riders/Warlocks
• Plastic Blackguard/Executioers
• Plastic Cold One Chariot/Scroungerunner (which is pulled by horses)
• Plastic Cauldron of Blood/Blood Throne
• Plastic Hydra/Kraken
• Plastic Witch Elf Box

uh das klingt ja echt toll...aber soll das mit dem ASF wirklich stimmen...wie schon vorher schon von anderen besprochen seh ich auch keinen sinn bei ASF + hass

die warlocks sollen zusammen mit den schwarzen reitern in einer box kommen? hmm sind die warlocks beritten? für was sind die eig. gedacht? sowas ähnliches wie bei warhammer online die jünger des khaine??

wisst ihr vll wann der WD von oktober rauskommt? normal so um den 27 /28?! aber dann müsste doch theoretisch die digitale version des WD ein paar tage früher kommen ??

lg

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noch ne frage und die finde ich wichtig (für mich halt mal^^) wisst ihr von nem gerücht was die 20er regel von der garde betrifft? ich hoffe ja stark dass diese aufgehoben wird und auch noch die khainiten regel geändert oder weg kommt

Details was das Armeebuch betrifft sind wohl noch nicht raus. Die Infos sind denke ich aus dem kommenden WD. Der sollte nächstes Wochenende raus sein.

Einige Diskussionen die gerade noch laufen sind:

Mögliche Armeesonderregeln:
ASF scheint ziemlich sicher und könnte eine Sonderregel für alle Elfen werden.
Rüstungsbrechend für die gesamte Armee.
Gift für die gesamte Armee.
Eine Regel die nur gegen Hochelfen zieht, könnte wieder Hass werden.

Auswirkungen des "Throne of Khaine":
Gift in 6" Umkreis (wirkt kumulativ)
MR in 6" Umkreis

ASF fände ich ja noch in Ordnung für alle Elfenvölker. Aber dazu dann noch Rüstungsbrechend bei den Dunkelelfen fände ich ein wenig übertrieben. Es sei denn, die Punktekosten steigen dementsprechend auch. Aber dann wären die ja Elitärer als die Hochelfen. Das kann ich mir ehrlich gesagt nur sehr schlecht vorstellen und denke mal das dies Wunschdenken ist.

Hochelfen haben auch 3 Sonderregeln...

Nun ja. Gegen Dunkelelfen haben sie 3 Sonderregeln. Ansonsten haben sie auch nur die Sonderregel ASF und Kriegeirsches Können. Es kam mit dem neuen Buch lediglich Kriegerisches Könen dazu. Mut der Zeitalter hilft ja nur ein wenig gegen die Dunkelelfen. Das die Dunkelelfen eine neue dazu bekommen kann ich mir auch sehr gut vorstellen. Nur glaube ich kaum das es zwei neue Sonderregeln geben wird für sie.

Also ich weiss nicht. Die DE sind im Moment schon ganz gut und laut dem AB soll noch immer ASF,Gift, Rüstungsbrechend und je nach Quelle für alle Todesstoß und W3 LP-Verluste dabei sein...

Ich denke das ist überwiegend Wunschdenken. Allein das ASF würde die Elfen schon stark verstärken, warum dann noch Hass?
Bei den ganzen Sonderregeln, die sich hier alle wünschen, wären die Elfen praktisch gesehen einfach "Godmode".
Ich würde gar nicht so viel auf die ganzen sonderregeln bisher hoffen, sondern mich erstmal mit den Modellbeschreibungen begnügen, denn ansonsten werden hier einige ziemlich enttäuscht sein, wenn doch nicht die Überelfen kommen.

Zitat von Winterwut

Also ASF, rüstungbrechend und Gift auf JEDEM Elfen kann und will ich mir nicht vorstellen.

Dass alle kommen ist ja recht unwahrscheinlich. Ich denke aber wenn es bei ASF bleibt kommt eventuell noch ne Khainitenregel mit Gift o.Ä. dazu. Gegen HE wird es auf jeden Fall wieder ne Sonderregel geben, eventuell das Gegenstück (MW wiederholen glaub ich)?

Zitat von Nyuu523

Allein das ASF würde die Elfen schon stark verstärken, warum dann noch Hass?

ASF ist besser als Hass bei der Ini der Dunkelelfen denke ich, also mit Sicherheit ne Verbesserung. Die HE hatten das aber bisher schon, warum also nicht die DE? Der Hass könnte wieder nur gegen HE sein, das wäre die Alternative.